From Cecil Bothwell:
Due to three reasons, I'm bumping the Civil Liberties resolution another month.
Chief Anderson has expressed a wish to talk to me about it in the context of the Citizens/Police Advisory Committee first.
Councilmember Gordon Smith is out of town due to a death in his family.
And the agenda for Monday is jammed with other routine stuff.
So we'll do it April 29.
Saturday, March 23, 2013
Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Civil Liberties resolution meeting 3/25/13
THIS HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK TO THE APRIL AGENDA, due to several factors per Cecil Bothwell.
Heads up to those interested: this is next Monday, March 25. The newest draft of the resolution is below.
Message from Cecil Bothwell:
I will bring the Civil Liberties resolution forward at the 3/25/13 meeting of the Public Safety Committee. It would be great if you or any of your friends, followers, legions, minions, multitudes, hangers-on or unindicted co-conspirators can join us.
3:30 p.m. Upstairs in the downtown Fire Department/Police Station.
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CITY OF ASHEVILLE
CIVIL LIBERTIES RESOLUTION
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville has long aspired to protect civil liberties and provide equal protection under the law to all persons in the city which includes a diverse population of many races, religions, national and ethnic origin, including immigrants, tourists and students—whose contributions to the community’s economy, culture and civic character are vast and important, and affirms its strong support for the fundamental constitutional rights of every person and recognizes that the preservation of civil liberties is essential to the well-being of a democratic society; and
WHEREAS: The Chief of Police of the City of Asheville has implemented new community policing practices that seek to reframe and improve the relationship between law enforcement officers and the public; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes measures that single out individuals within our diverse population for legal scrutiny or enforcement activity based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, immigration status; or homed or homeless status, and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes any efforts to transfer federal immigration responsibility to state and local officials, since these proposals tax our already overburdened police department and damage relationships with immigrant communities; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville believes that there is no inherent conflict between national security and the preservation of liberty but that Americans can be both safe and free; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville wishes to play a leading role in the protection of civil liberties and to consistently promote tolerance and respect for all persons, and recognizes that a number of other jurisdictions in North Carolina and in the United States have enacted policies or laws to make clear their protection of the civil liberties of a diverse population.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY OF ASHEVILLE that:
Section 1. The City of Asheville upholds the constitutional rights and civil liberties of any and all persons and it remains the policy of the City of Asheville to protect against discrimination on the basis of race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, immigration status, religious or political opinion or activity, or homed or homeless status.
Section 2. City of Asheville officers and employees reject profiling of any group within our diverse population as a factor in selecting individuals, setting up check points or selecting areas of town to subject to investigatory activities.
Section 3. City of Asheville officers shall not arrest persons or impound vehicles solely for failure to produce a driver's license in the course of motor vehicle stops in which the initiating infraction would not otherwise result in arrest, unless there is other evidence of criminal activity.
Section 4. The City of Asheville does not and will not maintain electronic, photographic or paper files on any person not under investigation for criminal activity.
Section 5. City of Asheville officers and employees do not and shall not collect, maintain or disseminate information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership unless said information is directly related to an investigation of criminal conduct that is based on reasonable suspicion.
Section 6. In the absence of interstate or international criminal or national security investigations, City of Asheville officers and employees shall refrain from participating in the enforcement of federal immigration laws or initiatives such as the Terrorism Information and Prevention System (TIPS), that encourage members of the general public to spy on their neighbors, colleagues and customers, or programs run by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), that drive a wedge between the immigrant community and the local police who need to protect the welfare of all our residents; no department, agency, commission, officer or employee of the City of Asheville shall use City funds or resources to assist in the enforcement of Federal Immigration Law, or to gather, use or disseminate the immigration status information of individuals in the City of Asheville.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution are not intended to protect criminal activity on the part of any person but are intended to encourage trust in the Asheville Police Department and to encourage reporting of criminal activity to that department by all members of the community.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution shall be severable, and if any provision of this Resolution is declared unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, the validity of the remainder shall not be affected.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution shall be forwarded to all City of Asheville law enforcement agencies and to every department, agency, commission, officer and employee of the City and to our local, state and federal legislative delegations on behalf of the residents of the City of Asheville.
Heads up to those interested: this is next Monday, March 25. The newest draft of the resolution is below.
Message from Cecil Bothwell:
I will bring the Civil Liberties resolution forward at the 3/25/13 meeting of the Public Safety Committee. It would be great if you or any of your friends, followers, legions, minions, multitudes, hangers-on or unindicted co-conspirators can join us.
3:30 p.m. Upstairs in the downtown Fire Department/Police Station.
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CIVIL LIBERTIES RESOLUTION
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville has long aspired to protect civil liberties and provide equal protection under the law to all persons in the city which includes a diverse population of many races, religions, national and ethnic origin, including immigrants, tourists and students—whose contributions to the community’s economy, culture and civic character are vast and important, and affirms its strong support for the fundamental constitutional rights of every person and recognizes that the preservation of civil liberties is essential to the well-being of a democratic society; and
WHEREAS: The Chief of Police of the City of Asheville has implemented new community policing practices that seek to reframe and improve the relationship between law enforcement officers and the public; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes measures that single out individuals within our diverse population for legal scrutiny or enforcement activity based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, immigration status; or homed or homeless status, and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes any efforts to transfer federal immigration responsibility to state and local officials, since these proposals tax our already overburdened police department and damage relationships with immigrant communities; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville believes that there is no inherent conflict between national security and the preservation of liberty but that Americans can be both safe and free; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville wishes to play a leading role in the protection of civil liberties and to consistently promote tolerance and respect for all persons, and recognizes that a number of other jurisdictions in North Carolina and in the United States have enacted policies or laws to make clear their protection of the civil liberties of a diverse population.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY OF ASHEVILLE that:
Section 1. The City of Asheville upholds the constitutional rights and civil liberties of any and all persons and it remains the policy of the City of Asheville to protect against discrimination on the basis of race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, immigration status, religious or political opinion or activity, or homed or homeless status.
Section 2. City of Asheville officers and employees reject profiling of any group within our diverse population as a factor in selecting individuals, setting up check points or selecting areas of town to subject to investigatory activities.
Section 3. City of Asheville officers shall not arrest persons or impound vehicles solely for failure to produce a driver's license in the course of motor vehicle stops in which the initiating infraction would not otherwise result in arrest, unless there is other evidence of criminal activity.
Section 4. The City of Asheville does not and will not maintain electronic, photographic or paper files on any person not under investigation for criminal activity.
Section 5. City of Asheville officers and employees do not and shall not collect, maintain or disseminate information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership unless said information is directly related to an investigation of criminal conduct that is based on reasonable suspicion.
Section 6. In the absence of interstate or international criminal or national security investigations, City of Asheville officers and employees shall refrain from participating in the enforcement of federal immigration laws or initiatives such as the Terrorism Information and Prevention System (TIPS), that encourage members of the general public to spy on their neighbors, colleagues and customers, or programs run by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), that drive a wedge between the immigrant community and the local police who need to protect the welfare of all our residents; no department, agency, commission, officer or employee of the City of Asheville shall use City funds or resources to assist in the enforcement of Federal Immigration Law, or to gather, use or disseminate the immigration status information of individuals in the City of Asheville.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution are not intended to protect criminal activity on the part of any person but are intended to encourage trust in the Asheville Police Department and to encourage reporting of criminal activity to that department by all members of the community.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution shall be severable, and if any provision of this Resolution is declared unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, the validity of the remainder shall not be affected.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution shall be forwarded to all City of Asheville law enforcement agencies and to every department, agency, commission, officer and employee of the City and to our local, state and federal legislative delegations on behalf of the residents of the City of Asheville.
Thursday, March 7, 2013
Bothwell's Civil Liberties Resolution
Cecil Bothwell, Asheville City Councilman, says the resolution he's proposing will be introduced to the Safety
Committee meeting on March 25th at 3:30 pm, in the room above the
downtown fire dept.
He says it will help to have folks show up and speak in favor of it. Alternately, your opinion can be read if you send letters to Cecil, Jan Davis, and Gordon Smith. But, letters should be sent a little closer time to the meeting.
We are posting it here because Occupy Asheville is considering writing a letter of support for this resolution. Please leave a comment if you have any thoughts on this course of action.
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CITY OF ASHEVILLE
CIVIL LIBERTIES RESOLUTION
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville has long aspired to protect civil liberties and provide equal protection under the law to all persons in a city which includes a diverse population of many races, religions, and national and ethnic origins, including immigrants, tourists and students, whose contributions to the community’s economy, culture and civic character are vast and important, and affirms its strong support for the fundamental constitutional rights of every person and recognizes that the preservation of civil liberties is essential to the well-being of a democratic society; and
WHEREAS: The Chief of Police of the City of Asheville has implemented new community policing practices that seek to reframe and improve the relationship between law enforcement officers and the public; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes measures that single out individuals within our diverse population for legal scrutiny or enforcement activity based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, or immigration status; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes any efforts to transfer federal immigration responsibility to state and local officials, since these proposals tax our already overburdened police department and damage relationships with immigrant communities; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville believes that there is no inherent conflict between national security and the preservation of liberty but that Americans can be both safe and free; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville wishes to play a leading role in the protection of civil liberties and to consistently promote tolerance and respect for all persons, and recognizes that a number of other jurisdictions in North Carolina and in the United States have enacted policies or laws to make clear their protection of the civil liberties of a diverse population.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY OF ASHEVILLE that:
Section 1. The City of Asheville upholds the constitutional rights and civil liberties of any and all persons and it remains the policy of the City of Asheville to protect against discrimination on the basis of race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, or immigration status.
Section 2. City of Asheville officers and employees will reject profiling of any group within our diverse population as a factor in selecting individuals, setting up check points or selecting areas of town to subject to investigatory activities.
Section 3. City of Asheville officers shall not arrest persons or impound vehicles solely for failure to produce a driver's license in the course of motor vehicle stops in which the initiating infraction would not otherwise result in arrest, unless there is other evidence of criminal activity.
Section 4. The City of Asheville does not and will not maintain electronic, photographic or paper files on any person not under investigation for criminal activity.
Section 5. City of Asheville officers and employees do not and shall not collect, maintain or dissemintate information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership unless said information is directly related to an investigation of criminal conduct that is based on reasonable suspicion.
Section 6. In the absence of interstate or international criminal investigations, City of Asheville officers and employees shall refrain from participating in the enforcement of federal immigration laws or initiatives such as the Terrorism Information and Prevention System (TIPS), that encourage members of the general public to spy on their neighbors, colleagues and customers, or programs run by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), that drive a wedge between the immigrant community and the local police who need to protect the welfare of all our residents; no department, agency, commission, officer or employee of the City of Asheville shall use City funds or resources to assist in the enforcement of Federal Immigration Law, or to gather, use or disseminate the immigration status information of individuals in the City of Asheville.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution are not intended to protect criminal activity on the part of any person but are intended to encourage trust in the Asheville Police Department and to encourage reporting of criminal activity to that department by all members of the community.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution shall be severable, and if any provision of this Resolution is declared unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, the validity of the remainder shall not be affected.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution shall be forwarded to all City of Asheville law enforcement agencies and to every department, agency, commission, officer and employee of the City and to our local, state and federal legislative delegations on behalf of the residents of the City of Asheville.
He says it will help to have folks show up and speak in favor of it. Alternately, your opinion can be read if you send letters to Cecil, Jan Davis, and Gordon Smith. But, letters should be sent a little closer time to the meeting.
We are posting it here because Occupy Asheville is considering writing a letter of support for this resolution. Please leave a comment if you have any thoughts on this course of action.
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CITY OF ASHEVILLE
CIVIL LIBERTIES RESOLUTION
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville has long aspired to protect civil liberties and provide equal protection under the law to all persons in a city which includes a diverse population of many races, religions, and national and ethnic origins, including immigrants, tourists and students, whose contributions to the community’s economy, culture and civic character are vast and important, and affirms its strong support for the fundamental constitutional rights of every person and recognizes that the preservation of civil liberties is essential to the well-being of a democratic society; and
WHEREAS: The Chief of Police of the City of Asheville has implemented new community policing practices that seek to reframe and improve the relationship between law enforcement officers and the public; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes measures that single out individuals within our diverse population for legal scrutiny or enforcement activity based on race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, or immigration status; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville opposes any efforts to transfer federal immigration responsibility to state and local officials, since these proposals tax our already overburdened police department and damage relationships with immigrant communities; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville believes that there is no inherent conflict between national security and the preservation of liberty but that Americans can be both safe and free; and
WHEREAS: The City of Asheville wishes to play a leading role in the protection of civil liberties and to consistently promote tolerance and respect for all persons, and recognizes that a number of other jurisdictions in North Carolina and in the United States have enacted policies or laws to make clear their protection of the civil liberties of a diverse population.
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY OF ASHEVILLE that:
Section 1. The City of Asheville upholds the constitutional rights and civil liberties of any and all persons and it remains the policy of the City of Asheville to protect against discrimination on the basis of race, skin color, national or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, mental or physical disability, religious or political opinion or activity, or immigration status.
Section 2. City of Asheville officers and employees will reject profiling of any group within our diverse population as a factor in selecting individuals, setting up check points or selecting areas of town to subject to investigatory activities.
Section 3. City of Asheville officers shall not arrest persons or impound vehicles solely for failure to produce a driver's license in the course of motor vehicle stops in which the initiating infraction would not otherwise result in arrest, unless there is other evidence of criminal activity.
Section 4. The City of Asheville does not and will not maintain electronic, photographic or paper files on any person not under investigation for criminal activity.
Section 5. City of Asheville officers and employees do not and shall not collect, maintain or dissemintate information about the political, religious or social views, associations or activities of any individual, association, organization, corporation, business or partnership unless said information is directly related to an investigation of criminal conduct that is based on reasonable suspicion.
Section 6. In the absence of interstate or international criminal investigations, City of Asheville officers and employees shall refrain from participating in the enforcement of federal immigration laws or initiatives such as the Terrorism Information and Prevention System (TIPS), that encourage members of the general public to spy on their neighbors, colleagues and customers, or programs run by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), that drive a wedge between the immigrant community and the local police who need to protect the welfare of all our residents; no department, agency, commission, officer or employee of the City of Asheville shall use City funds or resources to assist in the enforcement of Federal Immigration Law, or to gather, use or disseminate the immigration status information of individuals in the City of Asheville.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution are not intended to protect criminal activity on the part of any person but are intended to encourage trust in the Asheville Police Department and to encourage reporting of criminal activity to that department by all members of the community.
BE IT ALSO RESOLVED that the provisions of this Resolution shall be severable, and if any provision of this Resolution is declared unconstitutional by a court of competent jurisdiction, the validity of the remainder shall not be affected.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution shall be forwarded to all City of Asheville law enforcement agencies and to every department, agency, commission, officer and employee of the City and to our local, state and federal legislative delegations on behalf of the residents of the City of Asheville.
Wednesday, March 6, 2013
General Assembly Notes March 2 2013
General Assembly notes March 2, 2013
Jonathan facilitated, Meggen took notes
[Read Occupy Asheville General Agreements]
Reminder: Meetings on Mondays are on hiatus until further notice
(NVDAT is still meeting Tuesdays at 5PM at Battery Park Book Exchange)
Finance:
OA still has several hundred in the account--what should we do with it?
Suggestion to think this over and try to make a decision at April or May GA.
Possibilities:
[Discussion about Tuesday’s protest at Buncombe County building re: energy rate hikes. Consensus to make treasury funds available for arrestees who meet criteria. Sorry these notes were not posted until after this event.]
Cecil Bothwell’s Civil Liberties Resolution
Cecil has been getting feedback from various folks including Occupy members
March 25th public safety meeting will be next public discussion
-he is expecting support from Hunt and Pelly, maybe Smith
He would like a letter of endorsement from Occupy Asheville and for OA folks to submit public comments to City Council
NVDAT will work on drafting a letter, and OA can do consensus process online (post on blog, email chains, etc.)
Question raised about the value of OA’s endorsement, especially given our small numbers these days
Comment: we should give Cecil our support if he’s asking for it
Consensus: support NVDAT in drafting letter, put it on blog/email for discussion
if not blocks/dissent after a reasonable amount of time, OA will endorse
Jonathan facilitated, Meggen took notes
[Read Occupy Asheville General Agreements]
Reminder: Meetings on Mondays are on hiatus until further notice
(NVDAT is still meeting Tuesdays at 5PM at Battery Park Book Exchange)
Finance:
OA still has several hundred in the account--what should we do with it?
Suggestion to think this over and try to make a decision at April or May GA.
Possibilities:
- divide among existing working groups
- hold onto for legal defense
- donate to charities (such as Beloved House)
- AHN and VFP are good candidates since they are stand-alone organizations
- VFP could hold onto it and keep it for legal defense
- give more to Ben Scales
[Discussion about Tuesday’s protest at Buncombe County building re: energy rate hikes. Consensus to make treasury funds available for arrestees who meet criteria. Sorry these notes were not posted until after this event.]
Cecil Bothwell’s Civil Liberties Resolution
Cecil has been getting feedback from various folks including Occupy members
March 25th public safety meeting will be next public discussion
-he is expecting support from Hunt and Pelly, maybe Smith
He would like a letter of endorsement from Occupy Asheville and for OA folks to submit public comments to City Council
NVDAT will work on drafting a letter, and OA can do consensus process online (post on blog, email chains, etc.)
Question raised about the value of OA’s endorsement, especially given our small numbers these days
Comment: we should give Cecil our support if he’s asking for it
Consensus: support NVDAT in drafting letter, put it on blog/email for discussion
if not blocks/dissent after a reasonable amount of time, OA will endorse
Saturday, February 23, 2013
About the upcoming Public Safety Meeting
There has been discussion of Cecil Bothwell's resolution concerning civil liberties at Occupy Asheville meetings on Monday evenings. Exact wording of the resolution has not been shared. Some members have promoted the idea of people coming to the Public Safety Meeting to support this, which was rumored to be introduced in the January meeting and again in the February meeting. This is not going to happen in the February meeting, and the latest word is that the resolution will be introduced in the March meeting of the Public Safety committee. However, I would check an make sure that this will actually happen, if you are interested in this issue.
Monday, February 18, 2013
Suspension of Monday evening meetings
At tonight's meeting, we decided to suspend Monday evenings meetings of Occupy Asheville. We will resume if there is a new project to work on, or if there is interest.
We will still hold monthly General Assembly at 2 PM at Pritchard Park on the first Saturday of the month.
We will still hold monthly General Assembly at 2 PM at Pritchard Park on the first Saturday of the month.
Thursday, February 7, 2013
Monday Meeting Notes Feb 4 2013
from Kathryn:
Present: John, James,Susan, Bev, Sonny, Richard and
Kathryn (taking notes)
Richard brought a great deal of material which can
be made available to others about the foreclosure situation in Buncombe County
and the Metro area. Although housing prices have held up in Asheville
better than many other communities there was still at 12% decline in prices
between first quarters of '09 and '12 in the four county region. In 2011 there
were 1877 homeowners 90 days overdue and 2700 in foreclosure compared to 250
before the crash. On 9/12 1.6% of prime loans were 90 days over and 2%
were in foreclosure. Although Asheville only has 2.3% of owner occupied
subprime loans, 16% of this market is either in foreclosure or 90 days
overdue. Richard has spent time in the registrar of deeds office and found
that looking for errors in the paperwork is tedious and not very
rewarding.
Loan modification is done by the "servicer" of the
loan, not the lender. The programs for this have not been effective.
They can be contested by challenging filing inaccuracy. Modifications are
still available through 2013. OnTrack can help with this. However,
sometimes it is not to the advantage of the servicer to modify (they get less
interest, etc.) and it might be helpful to bring public attention to the
situation.
Bev had talked with Bill Whelan at Pisgah
Legal. He or someone else from the organization would be willing to talk
with us about what they know of the legal aspects. Bev will get back with
him and ask for someone to come speak with us. He did think it would be helpful
to bring more public attention to the continuing difficulties ("tell the world
of the injustice") and link people to resources. However, there are
mortgage relief scams everywhere and we must be careful not to get confused with
them.
Kathryn agreed to rewrite John's letter to make it
fit the criteria for possible publication as a letter to the
editor.
Susan talked about the FOIA. Each person has
to do apply individually. NVDA will discuss if they want to do
it. Sonny said that Naomi Wolf's book has information on how to do
it.
Sunday, February 3, 2013
February GA minutes
Occupy Asheville
General Assembly
February 2, 2013
Jonathan Facilitated
John S. and Jonathan took notes
GA: Jonathan, Susan,
Beverly, John S., Kasha, James and, Sonny.
A few others joined as the meeting continued.
General agreements read by Jonathan.
Vision statement
handed out by James L. Started at
National Gathering in Phila. James
suggested that people look over statement and get back to him for revision and
thoughts. James wants to create an Asheville part to the national vision. Drone warfare may need to be placed in the
document. Coleman has interest in this. Discussion ensued. Kasha wishes to see good flow of information.
We decided to read the paragraph starting “No change will be long-lasting…” and
talk about it. Kasha read the beginning of vision statement. Sonny brought up the problems of holding a
Constitutional Convention which could erase those parts of Constitution which
are good. Kasha pointed out that the
Right is so well organized that they could take over a constitutional convention. Sonny also raised a question about whether it
made sense to propose elimination of the Senate. Several people talked about the work by Move
to Amend to address the issue of ‘money as speech’ and ‘corporate
personhood.’ It was suggested that OA could
support Move to Amend in this effort, but also that these issues are not the
only or primary issues that OA is focused on. James responded we need to trust
people and the democratic process and that the Senate is not at all
representational. Jonathan suggested (as
facilitator) that if James’s goal is to develop a document that all of OA could
endorse that we might use this time simply to identify parts of the document
about which there was general agreement and parts that either needed more
conversation or needed to be revised/dropped.
Proposal to give
$100 to Western North Carolina Alliance
to help subsidize transportation costs to Washington, DC for the Feb 17th
“Forward on Climate” action. WNCA is
organizing a bus and this money would be to make help pay for some people’s
seats on the bus. (There are already
cheaper seats available for students, but we’d like cheaper seats to be
available to more people.) Jim B is
involved in organizing this bus. We are
in agreement for $100.00
Jonathan noted that it is unclear what process we are
working under. (Several people at the GA
mentioned items originating at the Coordinating Council (CC) and needing to go
out to working groups (WGs) for approval.)
We have the historic Coordinating Council process where WGs, affinity
groups, caucuses, etc bring proposals to the CC and then those proposals are
discussed by the groups and brought back to the CC. On the other hand at the Nov. GA those who
were gathered there came to agreement that decisions could be made by two
consecutive meetings of OA, that is something could be approved at the GA and
then again at a weekly Occupy meeting,
or at two weekly Occupy meetings or what have you. But as far as he knew this new process was
never adopted. Susan said that the CC
wanted GA to make a decision about the money for the F17 action. Jonathan clarified that under either process
the GA had agreed to the disbursement of $100 to WNCA for the F17 Climate
Action.
Kasha proposes working group for doing an event to keep
Occupy visible and utilize some of the resources (financial and otherwise) to
keep momentum going. New group formed
with Kasha point woman. Jonathan, as
facilitator, pointed out that anyone of us can form a new group, and that doing
so does not require approval from the GA.
Kasha asked just for a show of support and several people gave up
twinkles.
John reported that Donny
F. (who was involved in OA in Fall of 2011) raised starting a tent city at the
Federal Bldg. In a go round several
people expressed concern that another tent city would be
counterproductive. Bill expressed a
concern that 24 hr 365 day presence would be unsustainable and that the media
would inevitably dwell on decreasing numbers. Jonathan stated that publicly NOT
supporting an encampment does not make sense, and in fact would go against our
general agreements. We don’t get to say
what others do or don’t do. In fact, if
the encampment turned out to be wildly successful we would probably all feel
pretty silly if we had dismissed it.
However, to figure out how we might get involved with it and support it,
we would need those interested in starting an encampment to be part of our
conversation. The reality is we have
resources (financial) that are out of line with our current level of activity,
and it might really make sense for us to support an encampment, but folks
interesting in starting and encampment would need to come talk with us. Susan said, at this time it doesn’t seem like
something we could get involved with. John
stated that Occupy is a verb not a noun and that resurrection of a tent city
could be a powerful tactic. James L.
suggests that at some point maybe it would make sense, but that we would need
to deal with the homelessness issue. Bev
raised the concern that if the encampment is called Occupy Asheville, then it
concerns us. Kasha reported that from
inter-occupy calls she has learned that “occupation” has been a powerful tactic
as part of anti-foreclosure campaigns.
Jonathan suggested that John call Donny and inform him that at the GA
there was some concern about whether or not another encampment would make
sense, but felt like if Occupy Asheville was going to get involved with or
support an encampment those wanting to start the encampment would need be in
conversation with OA, we would welcome them to come to a GA or Occupy Weekly
Meeting.
Foreclosure issues. Bev spoke to Pisgah Legal about issue. They
feel should make sure we really understand the issue before putting out a
general call for people with foreclosure issues to get in contact with us, we
might be overwhelmed with contact from people we weren’t prepared to help. He suggest that we should start a website
that could be a clearing house for information about foreclosures and as a place
for people to tell their stories. James
and Kasha reported that they’ve been participating in inter-occupy calls about
foreclosure defense. James got email
advice from someone with inter-Occupy which he’ll share. Kasha said that many people on the call
reported that putting public pressure on banks before foreclosure proceedings
begin is a successful tactic. She said
that folks haven’t been able to forestall foreclosure for years just by forcing
banks to come forward with proper documentation. She also said she’d gotten mixed information
about legal assistance. John reported
that through Asheville Homeless Network, he made contact with someone facing
foreclosure but that her case is really messy.
He commented on how hard it is to find a “clean case” that is a case
that is not complicated with other issues.
He also talked with a women with a law firm that specializes in
foreclousers. He asked the group for
their approval for him to contact her.
Kasha pointed out that the “CC” has already decided to make foreclosures
a big focus on OA, but that it would be good to have the GA weigh in. Jonathan said that he thought a lot of people
facing foreclosures feel isolated and that it would be nice to bring people together
in such away that they could build solidarity with each other. He also mentioned that in the past Rich had
had ideas of some kinds of direct support that we might be able to offer and
that holding an event where we offered direct support might be a good way to
build some initial relationships. Jonathan said that he felt OK about John
calling the lawyer as a form of research or relationship building, but not to
offer up OA resources in service of a particular law firm’s strategy (note I say this because we might end up
having differing views about strategy and goals than what someone pursing a
legal approach might have.) Sonny recommended that John go with another
person from OA to talk to this lawyer; Bev agreed to be that other person. John reminded us that he had written a press
release and that we have not sent it out yet.
Jonathan (as facilitator) asked if we could agree as the GA that foreclousers should be a major focus of OA. There was not complete consensus on this, but
there were no stand asides or blocks.
There was also general agreement that John could contact this law firm
for more information.
Other reports and
Announcements:
Last month we held an event to appreciate Ben
Scales. We raised additional money there
and it was great to see each other and celebrate.
February 15th is the Anniversary of the
historic mobilization against the War in Iraq.
The largest anti-war mobilization ever.
Jonathan had miss-reported that Rain Forest Action was
doing a training about BoA and MTR at Sage Coffee House on Thur. This is actually happening at Sage Café at
Warren Wilson and is for the Warren Wilson community. (Still ripe opportunities for making the
connections between BoA’s mortgage policies and MTR.)
Monday, January 28, 2013
Minutes from Monday Jan 28th meeting
From Kathryn:
Present: Weasel, Coleman, Sonny, Bev, James,
Kasha, Jim Brown, Susan and Kathryn (taking notes and trying to
facilitate)
Susan announced that Feb 16 in the 10th anniversary
of the "day the world marched" against the war in Iraq.
Jim announced that there will be a major march in
Washington on Feb 17 to protest the Tar Sands project. There will be buses
going from Asheville and they will cost $80 for adults and $51 for
students. Susan recommended that we offer scholarships which led to a half
hour conversation about whether to spend our money this way. There were
suggestions of figuring out how to use our money to support local projects
instead. Finally, there was agreement that 5 scholarships of $20 each will
be offered to be disbursed by Susan and Jim if the next Monday evening meeting
agrees.
Coleman announced that Ms. Zevon is coming to town
tomorrow and will be filming interviews with Occupy folk at 3pm at City County
Plaza and 4:30 at the Vance Monument along with the VFP Vigil. Everyone is
invited to participate. If you know of other Occupiers who might be
interested in being interviewed in other cities, please contact
Coleman.
The suggested agenda for GA: Feb 17 action in
Washington; forming an Action Planning Group; reminding people of the
foreclosure focus; discussing the vision.
Kathryn read the revised statement re:
foreclosures. Coleman suggested that we should link up with the NC
Coalition against Corporate Power which has been working on this issue. He
also thought we should have a coordinated media campaign including announcements
in churches, PSAs, etc. Kasha suggested that we add a sentence recognizing
the pain and humiliation of people experiencing foreclosure. Bev has tried
to contact a lawyer. It was suggested that we look at the documents in the
courthouse and see what lawyers have been working with the people who are being
foreclosed on. Kasha suggested that a working group be formed to address
the foreclosure issue separate from the Monday night meetings as these meetings
should be available to address other issues. Sonny suggested that we
prepare questions to ask prospective people to support and have criteria to
choose whom to support.
Coleman shared that some Occupy groups have
obtained FOIA documents indicating that there was undercover surveillance of
Occupy last year and perhaps Occupy Asheville should request information about
what was done here.
James reviewed his updated Vision statement and the
group expressed their approval and appreciation. He will bring it up again
as part of the GA on Saturday. Coleman recommended some revisions,
particularly re: the impact of this nation on the Native Americans who were here
originally.
Susan mentioned the Blog. Kasha offered
information on the NVC course she has been taking on-line and suggested that we
should learn more about this way of communicating.
Friday, January 25, 2013
Notes from Monday Jan 21st Meeting
From Kathryn:
Present: John, Lindsey, Susan, Beve, James and Kathryn (taking minutes)
Discussion of foreclosures. Kathryn agreed to talk to Richard Genz and ask him to come to a meeting and get in touch with someone in the Atlanta Occupy Our Homes to learn how they have done it.
We agreed to get legal advice or at least have a lawyer available. Bev is trying to reach Richard Meda who assisted her brother. We can also contact Pisgah Legal. Bev told us her brother's sad story where his property was taken even while he had a buyer. The bank apparently makes a good deal of money by foreclosing and then selling the property itself.
John provided us with a draft of a possible press release which was intended to attract someone who wants our assistance. James objected and we agreed to read the document over the week and make suggestions.
We agreed to donate $100 to the Homeless Network and BeLoved House if there are no objections next Monday.
We agreed to change the time of the GA to 2 pm so that homeless people who are trying to get space in a shelter can participate.
We propose that the statement James has crafted for our vision of Occupy be accepted with accuracy and grammatical corrections to be presented next Monday.
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